MMS – Jim Humble – A comment on Marc Rose’s review

MMS for the 21st Century

After a suggestion on Twitter (and my previous experience reviewing Melanie’s Marvelous Measles on Amazon), I thought I’d take a look at what folks were saying about this book

(www.amazon.com/Miracle-Mineral-Solution-Century-Edition/dp/0982471203/ref=cm_rdp_product_img)

Here are the comments from Marc Rose and my comments on what he has to say. I do not think he was using sarcasm!

There are several key words and phrases that should alarm readers of this review by Marc Rose – they are used repeatedly by the credulous, especially when dismissing years of properly scientifically tested research. His words are in quotes:-

“I am a naturopathic physician” (an oxymoron?)

“I run the Vibrant Health Clinic” (how is that term defined and what on earth does it mean?)

“I have used MMS with several of my clients and have been getting good results” (several means how many out of total treated?)

“He is feeling much better and symptoms are gone and PSA is coming down but haven’t done a biopsy yet to determine if cancer is actually gone” (therefore cannot claim anything yet)

“A client with genital herpes reported good results with no more outbreaks (but hasn’t been retested for antibodies)” (see above)
“The guy who says MMS killed his wife is probably a shill” (that is often a claim made by the lovers of ‘woo’ – define ‘shill’)

“I seriously doubt MMS caused it because it is harmless and breaks down into salt” (do some research – start here:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/29/schoolboy-blogger-us-clinic)

“It works by releasing oxygen. Chlorine is a common mineral our body needs. I think the guy probably works for a drug company or is a government disinformation agent” (lack of real science depth here – this also works: Production of O2 -H2O2 (aq) ————> 2H2O (l) + O2 (g) – Hydrogen Peroxide Solution —————> Water + Oxygen gas)

“Jim Humble…who is in the service of others. Even his name fits him. He has given this gift to humanity. He does not make any money from MMS. He only profits when you purchase his book and half of the book he gives away for free as a PDF on the Web.” (really, no profits – they guy who first came up with it? Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement and http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/sep/15/miracle-mineral-solutions-mms-bleach)

“This may be one product the criminals at your FDA won’t be able to take away or keep off the market. I have heard of some countries that are just outlawing it for no reason such as Canada and Australia.” (FDA criminals – really? By whose distorted opinions?) “They also outlaw Iodine, another essential nutrient.” (that is true, so are lots of others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_nutrient)

“Your FDA has been supressing (sic) natural medicine cures for almost 100 years.” (you know we call natural medicines that work MEDICINES, right?)

“Can you honestly say there is not a single natural substance in the world that is good for treating disease?” (nope, no one of any sense is – that is where most medicines came from in the first place)

“I consider both salt and MMS natural.” (well, sodium chloride -A salt – is definitely natural. MMS, by your own word, has to be synthesised – hence NOT natural!)

“the drug companies steal all their patent drugs from substances found in nature.” (can you really STEAL from nature?)

“They haven’t approved any natural substances, only man made ones.” (penicillin doesn’t count then?)

“I hope poeple (sic) will wake up and find out that our creator has given us everything we need from nature to treat our diseases.” (there it is, calling on God – just like Bishop Jim Humble, I guess)

“This medical fascism has to stop. It is starting in NZ too. It all comes from the Rockefellers, the same people who keep you addicted to oil and killing innocent poeple (sic) to steal it.” (Oh where to begin here – how is it fascism? Rockefellers? What next, the Illuminati or the lizard people?)

“The law of Karma will catch up to all the drug companies, the govenrment (sic) and the New World Order gang one day.” (yep, I was right, a conspiracy theorist – what no Bilderberg Group? Check out Jon Ronson’s book Them:Adventures with Extremists) or read it free at:http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/mar/10/features.weekend)

“In the mean time the best diet in the world is described in Genesis 1:29. It is living raw food diet.” (Nevertheless, you are not to eat of these among those which chew the cud, or among those that divide the hoof in two: the camel and the rabbit and the shaphan, for though they chew the cud, they do not divide the hoof; they are unclean for you. The pig, because it divides the hoof but does not chew the cud, it is unclean for you. You shall not eat any of their flesh nor touch their carcasses. Deuteronomy 14:7-8 .Check other contradictions at: http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/bible-contradictions)

“If for some reason you need a powerful medicine you can drink your own urine. It is totally safe and doesn’t taste as bad as you think assuming you are eating a proper diet.” (so no need for MMS then? Unless you are just taking the p*ss)

I would suggest you do a few things to improve your knowledge and ability to convince others of you views;
* spell check
* basic research, not just believing
* check the statements you make for validity
* avoid ‘big conspiracy’ statements – true, there are some out there, but probably not as many as you think
* as soon as you quote scripture, you immediately lose credibility with a lot of your readers (especially when the book in question is full of contradictions, erroneous reporting, statements of impossibility and proven untruths)

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  3. Rev. Paul says :

    Ignorance is when you simply reject something you know nothing about and refuse to look into.

    • bensagan says :

      I agree, Rev Paul.Unfortunately the science shows that MMS does not work, nor ever will. It has been ‘looked into’ by many people better than me, and no verifiable evidence for its efficacy found. You need to demonstrate the ‘gold standard’ approach for evidence – namely reliable, repeatable, double blinded tests. Faith something works is not enough, I’m afraid. For faith, substitute “belief without evidence” or “pretending to know things you don’t know” if you like.
      There are many such claims for alternative medicines, usually relying on testimonials or pseudo-science to persuade the credulous of their effectiveness in treating a whole range of illnesses – often throwing in Aids and Cancer cures for good measure.

      However, I see from your site that you promote Jim Humble and his works, so I’m not overly surprised at your comment!

      “Gullibility is when you simply accept something you know nothing about and have no evidence to support”

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